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Libya, is it Civil War


Emails with Noam Chomsky
Events in Libya civil war?
Ala Elmadani 20 March 2011 12:08
To: Roam@roamagency.com, Admin@chomsky.info
Ala Elmadani 20 March 2011 12:08
To: Roam@roamagency.com, Admin@chomsky.info
Subject: Noam Chomsky Interview with BBC Newsnight
Dear Sirs,
I hope you are able to forward my request to Mr Noam Chomsky.
Last week on BBC Newsnight program, Mr Noam Chomsky said to Jeremy Paxman the events in Libya was civil war. According to my research and readings of civil war definitions I found nothing to suggest civil war.
Would Mr Noam Chomsky be kind to offer explanation.
Thanks
Best regards
Ala Elmadani


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Anthony Arnove 22 March 2011 17:46
To: Ala Elmadani elmadani70@gmail.com
Dear Ala Elmadani,
You may reach Prof. Chomsky via his office at MIT:
http://web.mit.edu/linguistics/www/chomsky.home.html 
Best wishes,
Anthony Arnove


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Ala Elmadani 22 March 2011 17:53
To: chomsky@mit.edu
Dear Sirs,
I hope you are able to forward my request to Mr Noam Chomsky.
Last week on BBC Newsnight program, Mr Noam Chomsky said to Jeremy Paxman the events in Libya was civil war. According to my research and readings of civil war definitions I found nothing to suggest civil war.
Would Mr Noam Chomsky be kind to offer explanation.
Thanks
Best regards
Ala Elmadani


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Noam Chomsky 23 March 2011 03:55
Reply-To: chomsky@mit.edu
To: "Ala Elmadani (by way of Noam Chomsky )" elmadani70@gmail.com
I'm surprised. It is almost universally called a civil war, in the ordinary sense. I don't know what definition you are using


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Ala Elmadani 23 March 2011 05:08
To: chomsky@mit.edu
Thank you very much for your response. The definition I am using is from Wikipedia, “ A civil war is a war between organized groups within the same nation state or republic, or, less commonly, between two countries created from a formerly-united nation state. The aim of one side may be to take control of the country or a region, to achieve independence for a region, or to change government policies. The term is a calque of the Latin bellum civile which was used to refer to the various civil wars of the Roman Republic in the 1st century BC.
A civil war is a high-intensity conflict, often involving regular armed forces, that is sustained, organized and large-scale. Civil wars may result in large numbers of casualties and the consumption of significant resources.”
Link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_war
BBC “ Libya crisis: Rebellion or civil war?”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12690713

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UPDATE
Noam Chomsky


Seems to me a good definition, and a pretty good description of what has been taking place in Libya – with the West now openly supporting the rebel side of the civil war.

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Ala Elmadani
By almost all reliable sources, the fighting in Libya is between Gaddafi forces ( made up of army & mercenaries, paid ) against revolutionaries and rebels ( mostly civilian volunteers )
Does that constitute a civil war?
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UPDATE
Noam Chomsky

That seems to be exactly what it is.
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Ala Elmadani
I find your answer amusing. Thanks for your time
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The west should cheer cry for freedom


  
Anyone with any sense of history knows the road to liberal democracy can be bumpy and bloody. Britain took centuries to progress from tyrant kings such as Henry VIII to representative parliamentary government. Americans killed each other in a civil war which left more of them dead than any other conflict. The UK and the US have yet to reach a state of democratic perfection.
Democracy is best at building stable, prosperous, resilient and tolerant societies over the long term. There has never been an armed conflict between two genuinely established democracies. The most promising path to sustainable peace and security in the Middle East against murderous extremism is the nurturing of democracy
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/feb/06/andrew-rawnsley-egypt-mubarak-democracy

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